Street Without Joy #2020

Street Without Joy By Bernard B. Fall Street Without Joy This classic account of the French War in Vietnam Laos and Cambodia is back in hardcover Includes an introduction by George C Herring
  • Title: Street Without Joy
  • Author: Bernard B. Fall
  • ISBN: 9780805203301
  • Page: 431
  • Format: Paperback
  • Street Without Joy By Bernard B. Fall This classic account of the French War in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia is back in hardcover Includes an introduction by George C Herring.
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    1. Bernard B. Fall

      Bernard B Fall was a prominent war correspondent, historian, political scientist, and expert on Indochina during the 1950s and 1960s Born in Austria, he moved with his family to France as a child after Germany s annexation, where he started fighting with the French Resistance at age 16, and later the French Army during World War II.In 1950 he first came to the United States for graduate studies at Syracuse University and Johns Hopkins University, returning and making his residence there He taught at Howard University for most of his career and made regular trips to Southeast Asia to learn about changes and the societies He predicted the failures of France and the United States in the wars in Vietnam because of their tactics and lack of understanding of the societies.On 21 February 1967, while accompanying a company of the 1st Battalion 9th Marines on Operation Chinook II in the Street Without Joy, Thua Thien Province, Fall stepped on a Bouncing Betty land mine and was killed He was dictating notes into a tape recorder, which captured his last words We ve reached one of our phase lines after the fire fight and it smells bad meaning it s a little bit suspicious Could be an amb.Fall was survived by his wife and three daughters.

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    1. If you have in interest in the Vietnam war, or in strategy, insurgencies and counter insurgent techniques this book should be on your reading list Street Without Joy tells the fascinating story of the post WW2 French in Indochina, their failures to understand or counter Vietnamese Communist forces and the eventual continuance of the same errors by the United States.Essentially, Fall posits that French and later US forces failed to understand the nature of the Vietnamese Communists revolutionary [...]


    2. Street without joy Explicit detailed account.Very informative but very dry I keep on pushing myself, Read Ammara Read Irrespective of the fact, it s hard for me but undoubtedly it s a brilliant book on French war.


    3. Simply a great book It deserves your undivided attention As far as I can tell, this book can be bought in old fashioned paper form in the USA only from by Stackpole Books, based in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania and in business since 1930 In addition to the inherent virtue of supporting a publishing institution of long standing dignity and of location far removed from the traditional centers of power, I also think that this book is best experienced this way, because of the great pictures and maps i [...]


    4. Street Without Joy is a must for the library of anyone interested in the 20th Century s Indo China wars Bernard Fall explored the French disaster brilliantly exposing the foolishness of the French military and political leaders while honoring the valor and dedication of the fighting men Fall was a Frenchman who immigrated to America and accompanied French Union forces for graduate research at a U.S university His writing brought to light the hidebound French military leadership s failure to gras [...]


    5. This book and The True Believer, were required reading when I went through the Special Forces Officer s Course at Ft Bragg When I went to Vietnam, I saw much of what Dr Fall was describing I just reread Street Without Joy and realize that he was not only a brilliant historian, he was prescient in his understanding of the nature of insurgencies in the modern world He spoke of the folly of the French when he said that they were trying to fight ideology with technology We, the Americans, tried the [...]


    6. Bernard Fall s classic account of the First Indochina War 1946 1954 The book was originally published in 1961 in English and quickly became a standard reference for American military personnel as well as anyone else wanting to gain some insight into Southeast Asia at the time Street Without Joy French translation La Rue Sans Joie was the name given by troops of the French Far East Expeditionary Corps to the stretch of Route 1 from Hu City yes that Hue from Full Metal Jacket to Qu ng Tr during th [...]


    7. I now see where many of the secondary sources I ve been reading got their insights What s neat, though, is how Fall weaves his personal observations through the analysis of what went wrong at Dien Bien Phu Fascinating characters emerge, and stories like this one Perhaps one of the most touching cases of devotion was that of Madame S White haired and close to sixty years old, she belonged to one of the grand bourgeois families of France When her son, a lieutenant in the infantry, was transferred [...]


    8. Bernard Fall s heartbreaking history of war in Vietnam heartbreaking for at least three reasons because of the failure of the French to honor the aspirations of the Vietnamese or to learn from their own mistakes the failure of the U.S government to learn from the experiences of the French and the staggering amount of death, suffering and devastation visited on the Vietnamese people as a result.One story can stand in for a lot of this book s message An American unit was ambushed by the NVA on a h [...]


    9. Many of this country s most respected political figures have noted Fall s absolute precision of the Vietnam War In Colin Powell s 1995 Autobiography, My American Journey, he wrote I recently reread Bernard Fall s book on Vietnam, Street Without Joy Fall makes painfully clear that we had almost no understanding of what we had gotten ourselves into I cannot help thinking that if President Kennedy or President Johnson had spent a quiet weekend at Camp David reading that perceptive book, they would [...]


    10. Picking up the book knowing full well that I am going to counter military history at its best the first Indochina War for you , I did not expect the level of historical analysis offered by the author Having been raised in Vietnam and now reading the book from the enemy s perspective, I found the whole episode vindictive of my firm belief in the inevitable roles of the whole Vietnamese Communist movement in 1945, as well as educational about tragedies that textbooks always fail to mention I also [...]


    11. Street Without Joy is the definitively account of the first Indo China War, as France attempted to hold on to it s East Asian colony Bernard draws on first hand experience and documentary research in Paris to describe the slow defeat of France in the vast empty spaces of Vietnam s jungle and highlands to the light infantry of the Viet Minh.Fall describes the complete failure of heavy mechanized units in guerrilla warfare Tied to the scanty road network, the Groupes Mobile were juggernauts, but o [...]


    12. Fall s book on the First Indochina War France vs the Viet Minh is a must read, not only for those seeking to understand the conflicts in Southeast Asia but for understanding guerrilla and revolutionary war Indeed, Fall s distinction between those two terms is extremely important Technology cannot defeat ideology without going to extremes the Western World is unwilling to go to Revolutionary wars must have popular support mere acts of violence are not sufficient If you cannot read the entire book [...]


    13. This is not a book It was an opportunity A chance A vision of the future that was missed Who missed that vision We did.Street Without Joy was written about the French miseries fighting the Viet Minh How they struggled How they lost It was also written real time It was published in 1961 Many years before we fully committed ground troops to what was to become a quagmire But they were French Why should we pay attention to someone who lost We are Americans We don t pay attention to anyone else becau [...]


    14. The first third of the book was quite boring and old fashioned description of French army actions in Indochina with old diagrams reminded me of weird military dictionary If I didn t happen to be patient reader, I would have probably closed the book after this part Now I m glad I did not The middle part started to be finally interesting I recommend especially all chapters entitled as Diary In this first hand account, Fall proved to be a great and thoughtful observer Many of his conclusions are re [...]


    15. SUBJECT READER REVIEW WITH PLOT SPOILERS FOLLOWS Normally a hard over fiction fan, Fall s Street Without Joy was referenced in some work I read than two years ago, and it took me that long to find the book, first published in 1961 I think I was as fascinated with the title as I was curious as to exactly what the French experience in Southeast Asia had been Turns out they formed the Indochina colony following their victory over the Chinese in the Sino French war ending in 1885 They ruled it for [...]


    16. Although the least little bit dated in terminology, it was an amazing primer about revolutionary war as defined in our time Fall puts the French Indochina Dien Bien Phu thing into historical as well as current perspective I remember, as a young Woodcrafter at Culver Military Summer School, the celebration of the armistice arrived to during that summer His treatment of different techniques, methods, ideas of the French military gave me a whole new perspective for the French, especially his coloni [...]


    17. This is the starting point for the reader wanting to begin to understand the Post WWII conflict in Viet Nam Bernard Fall, a French journalist scholar who would die during his continuing coverage of the Viet Nam conflict writes a prophetic analysis of why the West would not ultimately be victorious in SE Asia Along with his book, Hell in a very small place, The Siege of Dien Bien Phu, Fall introduced the West to the one of the rebellious remnants of the French Empire Written as much by a soldier [...]


    18. Colin Powell commented that this book should have been read by American leadership before the escalation of American involvement in Vietnam Without a doubt, he was right The French war in Vietnam Indochina is not as well known, but no less important While I don t recommend this book as a primer on the conflict, it would serve well as a read after one has done previous research on the conflict largely because the geopolitical aspect of the conflict is absent from this book Nonetheless, it is a re [...]


    19. This book is the most important book written on Vietnam prior to the direct involvement of the Americans in this theatre of operations It was never truly employed on a wide scale by the American military and Dr Fall was literally ignored by both the Kennedy and Johnson Administrations There were of course several officers in the U.S Army and U.S Marines that did take note of the effects of this book on how they handled the sphere of war within Indochina two of these officers were Lt.Col Hal Moor [...]


    20. Having served in Vietnam 1969 70 as did my older brother, Jon L Wingo I would have to say that Dr Fall s book is a must read by anyone who served in Vietnam or had thoughts of serving there That is, if one can stomach reading details accounts from both sides about the waves of humanity laid to waste there the Japanese, the French, the Americans, the Viet Cong, and the Viet Minh alike A determined scholar, Dr Fall paid the ultimate price over his Vietnam at war obsession,the subject of his doctor [...]


    21. Quite simply one of the best books ever written about the Franco Vietminh war More than 50 years later, Fall s prose still retains and conveys the hopeless, desperate urgency of the doomed French struggle for empire in South East Asia.


    22. It was very gut wrenching Almost every lesson learned documented as to why the French military failed in Indochina is prophetic of what the American military experienced later in Vietnam.



    23. I first read Street Without Joy in the first half of 1969 Why is this fixated in my memory Easy it was a prescribed text during my conscripted officer training in the Australian Army when I was being prepared to lead an infantry platoon in Vietnam Fortunately my academic background sent me off to an Army computing installation in Melbourne However, Fall s book stuck in my memory, so I decided to read it again I am so glad I did This is an amazing book, part academic treatise and part journalisti [...]


    24. Great writing on the conflict between the French and Vietminh in the early mid 1950s I would have liked a little background on the events leading up to the opening of hostilities between the two forces I also felt there was a lack of chronology in the military conflict, and the author didn t really explain how each of the tactical actions he narrates into the bigger picture That said, the tactical narratives are vivid and interesting It was a quick read with easy to digest writing.


    25. How the French military underestimated a peasant Army in IndochinaA great book written about a series of desperate military blunders set in Vietnam between 1945 and the French withdrawal in 1955 The book is written while memories were fresh and should have been used as a warning of what the American Army was about to face The rest is history as they say So is hindsight from an arm chair general.


    26. Informative and still relevantThere is much information here that I don t think the general public ever had easy access to I went to this book after watching the Ken Burns documentary, in an attempt to better understand the US involvement Definately a read for those who best understand tactics and armaments, but for the casual history reader there are insights to be had.


    27. Excellent read about the French debacle in Indochina The author, Bernard Fall, had some useful lessons for the Americans then fighting in South Vietnam He should have been read widely It might have help shape US political and military policy regarding the conflict


    28. The mistakes of the day The enormous egos The casual way leaders cast the young into the abyss Repeat and start again An incredible read about our complex world It really is simple in the end We re there.


    29. Full of western propaganda and lies like e.g calling Soviets Russians and all the time using word Russia for Soviet Union There are some interesting relations from battles but in chaotic order It has nothing to offer.


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